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Sherlock1123
Posted on: Jan 15 2019, 08:44 PM


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First things first I'd say. Even if off-label use is denied, it might change (or challenged) in the future. Approval obvious is the first (biggest) hurdle imho.
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Sherlock1123
Posted on: Dec 10 2018, 10:34 PM


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I really don't care about the SP right now; the trading is far from ordinary for this stock so any trade can easily get it up or down, let alone if a large holder is changing its position. Comparing it to the overall ASX trading makes no sense.

As long as the FDA is still reviewing I expect no big changes besides the now drifting up and down like a log in the ocean.

Till then I see only buying opportunities and I don't bother to look to the day to day SP changes. Relax, enjoy Christmas and keep faith.


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Sherlock1123
Posted on: Sep 24 2018, 07:48 PM


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Back in the air: https://www.clinuvel.com/pharmaceuticals/pipeline & https://www.clinuvel.com/pharmaceuticals/scenesse
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Sherlock1123
Posted on: Aug 25 2018, 12:31 AM


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True. Does for US FDA approval automatically mean reimbursement?




But; still; for arguments sake, what if FDA does not approve?
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Sherlock1123
Posted on: Aug 24 2018, 11:48 PM


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Keeps me wondering as well, and worried, to be honest. Now, I strongly believe in the company, but I also strongly believe in the forces against it, NICE in the UK as a clear reminder of that.

Now not that I don't want to jump on the bandwagon, but let's speculate for a bit: what if the FDA decides, like NICE, well, congratulations, you made a drug for a nuisance, so forget it, we are not going to reimburse it as we don't see the necessity.

I'm worried that the working of the drug is not in question, the necessity to give access to it (at the (still hefty) price currently offered) is.

To be clear, I absolutely believe in this, and sincerely hope all EPP sufferers are given the opportunity to lead a more normal life, but we are not calling the shots.

So, what if....

Your opinion?
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Sherlock1123
Posted on: Jun 19 2018, 06:02 PM


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Guilty as charged smile.gif
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Sherlock1123
Posted on: Apr 4 2018, 09:31 PM


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Perhaps they are just improving on their lack of communication complaint, and are now generating 'fuzz' to literally make some noise to at least make the impression of making progress. Question is; why? Say something relevant or keep silent and do your work would be my preferred attitude.
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Sherlock1123
Posted on: Oct 18 2017, 04:38 PM


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What surprises me about the link on Argus site is one of the comments of a EPP-sufferer:

EmArnie80 17th October ‎01‎:‎09‎ ‎PM

I have EPP and was surprised to see this article in the Argus, I think its great that people know and understand about this condition. I am intrigued about the treatment though, because this has never been mentioned to me. I underwent light therapy this year which worked really well for me.


A potential patient which has not heard about Scenesse in all those years!? Excuse me?
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Sherlock1123
Posted on: Dec 1 2016, 02:27 AM


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Steady as she goes, steady as she goes.....
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Sherlock1123
Posted on: Dec 1 2016, 12:09 AM


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If I add all your posts, then that would accumulate to $60 per share. smile.gif I like it smile.gif
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Sherlock1123
Posted on: Nov 30 2016, 08:00 PM


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The good news is that this board is taking less and less time of my daily startup routine. On topic: pleased on the AGM notes. Great news ahead, and, in the end it will pay off. PW seems to be a man of his word.
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Sherlock1123
Posted on: Oct 11 2016, 08:35 PM


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$11,56
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Sherlock1123
Posted on: Sep 21 2016, 07:31 PM


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This looks more like a lousy attempt to place a market order: buy at any price.
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Sherlock1123
Posted on: Jul 7 2016, 03:55 PM


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I absolutely agree; but the only reason I could think off why someone wants so desperatedly keep the SP down.
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Sherlock1123
Posted on: Jul 7 2016, 01:29 AM


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A take-over bid in the making?
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Sherlock1123
Posted on: Jun 24 2016, 04:32 AM


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The only protection any company can have is a high shareprice. So I don't believe the stay low is done to protect against takeovers. Meaning, politics, or a naive believe in capitalism: eventually someone will notice this coal may actually be a diamond and PW doesn't care if it is today, tomorrow or next decade.
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Sherlock1123
Posted on: Feb 24 2016, 09:08 PM


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I'm Dutch, so I can help you out here smile.gif Article describes patients with 'rare diseases', of which EPP is given as an example. The 130.000 mentioned are patients who participitate yearly in trials for a multitude of rare diseases.

The first example given, with patient Jeroen Verheul describes his experience with EPP as one of ~200 patients in the Netherlands. 30 of these patients participated in the trial for Scenesse, with 'deliberating results'. He could live daily 7 minutes in bright sun, which was a huge increase in quality of life, as 7 minutes in bright sun equals 2-3 hours in the shade. Meaning; could bring kids to school, ride a train sitting on the shadowside, etc: living a more normal life.

When the trial ended, the supplier gave Scenesse for another year, out of compassion, which ended three years ago. The wait was for EMA release, but now after their approval, new hurdles have arisen, as Clinuvel needs to show the medicine works dure lifetime follow up, increasing the price for the medicine.

Patients hopes the medicine will be availabe in March (just in time for summer), as was planned but fears this will be difficult due to these new hurdles.


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Sherlock1123
Posted on: Dec 10 2015, 01:29 AM


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Thanks for not calling me a plant, forcing me sell all my shares, or buy more, or wishing me to all layers of hell.

Regarding the question at hand: I agree with you. But my point is that apparently people are willing to take the risk of non-regulated medication for less serious symptoms (hairloss for instance). Given that fact, I would expect that relatively more people with a ‘real’ disease with life changing impact (like EPP) would give such a medication a try, given the lack of alternatives.

That, for me, is the real risk at the moment for Clinuvel. If Melatonin is indeed relatively easy to make, and does the trick as well, this could lead to Clinuvel being outrun and bringing an aspirin to market at the cost of several k$: “well done guys, but they make it cheaper elsewhere, and bytheway, thanks for the great idea”.

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Sherlock1123
Posted on: Dec 9 2015, 11:43 PM


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I'm wondering about the comment made several pages ago of the over the internet available melatonin, at a fraction of the price Clinuvel is trying to achieve. Why is that GoFundMe guy than doing travelling up and down to Switzerland if it is that easy to get over the internet, or anybody else for that matter.

If I was a patient, obviously I would push regulatory bodies to get official approved medication, but if the alternative "works and looks like real" is available for a fraction of the cost, who cares?

Am I naive here on the risk of these unofficial medications? And, given the circumstances for these patients, what alternative options do they have?
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Sherlock1123
Posted on: Sep 29 2015, 12:27 AM


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To give more background on this article: Scenesse is mentioned in this article in relation to rare diseases and the current increase in healthcare costs. Pharmaceutical companies have now an incentive to start developing medicines for rare diseases, due to (for instance) a 10 year exclusivity, which is relatively new. However, the development costs are thus split over the users of the medicine, which is for rare diseases a extremely low amount of people, leading to huge costs per patient.

Insurers are not always willing to pay the relative high prize per medicine, and, in the case of non-imbursement, the hospital can decide to pay for it, or not. The frustration is for the patients who have 'tasted' the life with Scenesse, and literally see the medication lying on the hospital shelf.

Hence the delay in getting things to market: is the prize realistic and acceptable; the so called 'formalities'.


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Sherlock1123
Posted on: Sep 20 2015, 10:26 PM


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Damn you! My hidden agenda revealed! smile.gif
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Sherlock1123
Posted on: Sep 20 2015, 08:10 AM


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Cool! A pissing contest! Just what we need!
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Sherlock1123
Posted on: Jul 6 2015, 08:20 PM


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I'm a long term holder of CUV and frequent reader of this message board, where between the occasional flaring tempers, good comments and analyses are made. Obviously I'm frustrated by the shareprice which is in my opinion not a correct representation of the current worth of Clinuvel, and the best protection any company can have is a high shareprice. What bothers me more than the low SP is the fact that there are apparently persons willing to sell at these prices, which seems hard to believe.

Why on earth would someone be willing to sell with a derisked stock as it is right now? Anybody any clue?


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