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post Posted: Feb 18 2021, 09:02 AM
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In Reply To: nipper's post @ Feb 11 2021, 06:17 PM

Does this include CFDs?



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mullokintyre
post Posted: Feb 18 2021, 08:40 AM
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Gammastop has an article Here
Going through the timeline of the recent short squeeze on GME.
Some of it is speculating, but seemingly well researched speculating, and it does not take sides.
It is too long with too many relevant images that sharescene will not me to paste, so if anyone is interested in a well researched timeline, this is a good starting point.
Its important to remember however, that Gammastop themselves are part of the big elite players to seek to extract some money from customers, so keep that in mind.
One of the truisms is that this sort of gamma squeese is not the first occurrence, and you can guarantee it won't be the last.
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nipper
post Posted: Feb 11 2021, 06:17 PM
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20 most shorted


Code Company .. Market Cap Short Positions % of Shorts
WEB Webjet ..... $1.7B 44,908,956 ........... 13.25%
TGR Tassal ........ $720.7M 25,888,043 ........ 12.25%
NST Northern Star ... $9.0B 85,592,743 ..... 11.55%
SDA Speedcast .... $189.3M 22,234,098 ....... 9.27%
MSB Mesoblast ........ $1.5B 51,581,547 ........ 8.78%
ING . Inghams ..... $1.3B 32,036,418 ......... 8.62%
WSA Western Areas ..$693.2M 22,565,848 ..... 8.20%
AVH Avita Medical .... $153.1M 5,320,581 ...... 7.95%
MTS Metcash ........ $3.6B 75,561,728 .......... 7.39%
MYR Myer .............. $258.7M 59,498,117 .... 7.24%
SSM Service Stream .. $698.6M 29,636,127 ...7.23%
FNP Freedom Foods ...... $834.0M 19,242,182 .... 6.94%
FLT .Flight Centre ........ $3.0B 13,699,746 .....6.88%
IVC InvoCare .......... $1.7B 9,882,895 ........6.86%
RSG Resolute ........... $761.6M 75,466,887 ...... 6.84%
A2M A2 Milk .............. $7.6B 50,726,825 ......... 6.83%
EML EML Payments ........ $1.5B 23,415,982 ...... 6.47%
EOS Electro Optic Systems ... $791.2M 8,926,500 ..... 5.97%
NEA Nearmap ............. $1.2B 28,380,259 ............ 5.76%
ALK Alkane .................. $485.2M 32,724,577 ....... 5.50%



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nipper
post Posted: Feb 1 2021, 08:29 AM
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In Reply To: mullokintyre's post @ Jan 31 2021, 04:23 PM

A primer on recent trading

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-30/hedg...street/13104846



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"Every long-term security is nothing more than a claim on some expected future stream of cash that will be delivered into the hands of investors over time. For a given stream of expected future cash payments, the higher the price investors pay today for that stream of cash, the lower the long-term return they will achieve on their investment over time." - Dr John Hussman

"If I had even the slightest grasp upon my own faculties, I would not make essays, I would make decisions." ― Michel de Montaigne

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mullokintyre
post Posted: Jan 31 2021, 04:23 PM
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What a laugh, Goldman Sachs reckons the whole market could crash!. Its ok for them to rig the market and screw everyone else, but if some bunch of Amateurs do it, its bad news.
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"Unsustainable excess in one small part of the market has the potential to tip a row of dominoes and create broader turmoil.
Pockets of the market have recently appeared to demonstrate investor behavior consistent with bubble-like sentiment, the team wrote. But these excesses present low systemic risk to the broader market given their modest share of market cap."


Others think that its a bit of storm in a teacup.
From Zero Hedge
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This is a big deal to the shorting community, but to the other 99% of the financial world, nobody gives a shit.

As much as young people on the internet like to imagine this as an epic, David vs Goliath, Wall Street vs Main Street showdown for the history books; from a bird's eye view its actually just a brief dumpster fire where a couple hedge funds lost their shirts betting on one little small cap stock. It has happened before, and it will happen again.

In 6 months, nobody will remember or care, except that (maybe) it will become more difficult for retail investors to trade options.

And not because the greedy hedge fund oligarchs forced the SEC to crack down on retail investors.

But rather because, when this is all said and done, there is going to be a black hole where most of these retail investors' brokerage accounts used to be, and the SEC and brokerage community will be lambasted for failing to protect unsophisticated investors from a bubble.

I have been monitoring the WSB threads, and while the WSB veterans know that they're making a suicide charge for the memes, they have brought thousands of naive, new investors with them - who predominantly think that they're going to somehow come out on top, not realizing that they're cannon fodder for the more savvy WSB users to exit with gains.


Each of them has their own agenda, and tailor their response to suit.

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early birds
post Posted: Jan 31 2021, 02:56 PM
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https://www.afr.com/markets/equity-markets/...20210131-p56y7h

This was a week even us ancients havent seen before, Mr Chanos said in an interview with the Financial Times. I have been doing this for 40 years and I dont remember a period like the past 10 days.



One of the most surreal aspects is that it has become political and the corollary is they are blaming short-sellers, the guys who got killed, Mr Chanos said.


What has really happened here is a bunch of short sellers and hedge funds have lost a lot of money and a bunch of retail investors as well as a bunch of hedge funds have made a lot of money, he said


Were seeing a level of misunderstanding about how markets work that is being brought on by a whole new generation of investors who have never seen a bear market and somehow think that theyre being held back from their rightful place at the table by these evil hedge funds, he said.

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lmaosmiley.gif , keep fighting!! gravity will have the final say for this saga i reckon!!

 


mullokintyre
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The big movers from shortman this week are the NewsCorp NWSLV and a mornningstar investment fund MSTR.
The latter has shot to 26% short in a week.
Obviously someone has some inside info thats caught on.
The shorting of Newscorp shares has been happening since early January.
Down about 22% from its $22 high.
Rupert may have to sell one his houses if this keeps up.
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lgrif
post Posted: Apr 8 2020, 12:05 PM
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In Reply To: nipper's post @ Apr 7 2020, 06:19 PM

Agreed liquidity issue is a worry (in the main for Industry funds I read), The 2 year $10000 draw-downs may require some funds selling down assets at in a depressed market. However it's a bit rich for the Fund managers to now ask the Government (Taxpayers) to lend them funds at .25% to cover the draw-downs.
I have a son who's super is an Industry fund & for 2 years he has been notifying them to change his investment mode at will( ie Balanced; High Risk; Low risk, cash etc) which they do for free. I often wonder how they could do that for free yet at arrive at fair values for non-liquid assets when he swapped. Recent articles in the news suggest some of the harder values for non-liquid assets were a bit hit-and miss, or out of date resulting in some members gaining and some losing a little. I realise carefully , timely valuations cost money, but can't see an option other than limiting a members annual investment mode swaps and perhaps charging a smallish swap fee (some do the latter).

 
nipper
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In Reply To: lgrif's post @ Apr 7 2020, 03:49 PM

I suspect the 'senior banker' was talking somewhat tongue in cheek; in his (I assume) eyes, the industry funds ate their lunch, and this is a bit of mischievous nose rubbing.

More seriously, the liquidity issue is a worry if, as could be the case, many thousands want to take out the $10,000 now and a similar amount next FY. Most of these people need it.

The past may be another country but the future is a set of unknowns.



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"If I had even the slightest grasp upon my own faculties, I would not make essays, I would make decisions." ― Michel de Montaigne
 
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The_Real_Fly‏ @The_Real_Fly 12h12 hours ago Portnoy is now ALL IN short $BA from this morning, getting SQUEEZED -- down $500k




the above is how with decent timing on buying stock, forced short covering can aid an investor, it adds liquidity to the auction, forces trade by the shorter benefiting the buyer (when bought at the right time!)




#timing



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