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disco stu
post Posted: Feb 14 2020, 05:41 PM
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In Reply To: nipper's post @ Feb 14 2020, 03:52 PM

I won't pump it too hard, as I know you like to DYOR wink.gif

But I will give you a couple links to get you started:

These guys have just put out a short series of youtubes on the case for BSV. They're a Crypto fund investors who've gone long large in BSV, so obviously bias.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcJm...j2RabWoEH8x2jot

Speaking of bias, the crypto market is nearly universally bias against BSV and especially Craig Wright. There is a reason for this and it involves more Craig claiming to be Satoshi or than ideological differences (I personally believe he was a significant, driving part of the gestalt entity known as Satoshi, being himself, Dave Klienman and Hal Finny). Basically Craig was instrumental in taking down a Crypto Anarchist called Aaron Swartz, who ended up killing himself in prison (an interesting story worth googling in itself, but a summary is included in the link below). The link is to a long, but pretty interesting account of the history of bad blood between Core & Craig Wright that extends right back to Julian Assange, Greg Maxwell & Aaron Swartz (interestingly the link and all the data including screen shots is actually hosted on the BSV blockchain).

https://bico.media/39062d9fb3df9054e4df8321...ddb6c7f7741ff1b

In terms of Crypto "News" you find on the internet - it is mainly a rehash of paid hacks writing and requoting what some nonce has said on twitter. Coingeek is about the only one that is reliable and worth following for objective info on the wider crypto space, including legal and tax developments. They also cover BSV extensively, but they are very pro-BSV as its owned by Calvin Ayre, who is an online gambling magnate whose poured millions into BSV (this alone should give you a hint as to one of the use cases for BSV alone).

IMHO within the shallow end of the crypto community there is a massive disconnect between what people believe BSV is about and what it is about and capable of, this asymmetrical difference has resulted in a massive opportunity.

Personally even if Craig didn't have a access to a single bitcoin, BSV would still be the only chain I'd be interested in - the value within the blockchain is derived from utility and use cases. Here is a list of the current projects and applications being built on BSV:

https://bitcoinassociation.net/bitcoin-sv-b...ects-worldwide/

Many of these apps are utility apps - developer tools, database tools (bitbus, etc). But there's more projects going here than pretty much across the entire of the remaining crypto space. Utility will drive value - BSV is less a coin than utility token to allow activity to take place on a combined communications/data/payment protocol. Hence their motto about BSV code being set in stone - to encourage stability and development.

Anyhow, there is enough there to kill a few hours.


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In Reply To: disco stu's post @ Feb 14 2020, 03:39 PM

G'day, g'day. Interesting, thanks for the info.

Just luvin' my CSL n CBA shares. But the risk bucket, the 10% thrill and chase money, it's hard to find a home. Getting more cautious.





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"If I had even the slightest grasp upon my own faculties, I would not make essays, I would make decisions." ― Michel de Montaigne

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disco stu
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In Reply To: nipper's post @ Oct 6 2019, 07:50 PM

High Nipper - long time no hear - you should take a look at BSV if you have any mild interest in Crypto.

I'm 100% long in it and have been since BCH forked away from it... it is actually the only chain that is delivering on what the technology promises.

Very hard to find any reliable info out there via Crypto News platforms, they're all basically pump sheets for exchanges with vested interests in seeing a proliferation of coins/chains. BSV does it all, and a direct threat to most of their business models. There is an ongoing explosion of development occurring on the BSV chain.

The way most people think about crypto is wrong - essentially BSV (bitcoin) should be viewed as a utility, each coin represents a forward payment to utilise the processing functions available on the chain. Essentially it is a means to monetise data right down to individual bytes. The value is derived from the utility embedded in the chain (i.e use cases) and a function of the hashing needed to defend the integrity of the chain.

This technology will enable financialisation of things that people never dreamed possible before - leasing models for things like photocopiers could be done on a per photocopy basis, sliding doors making a payment every time one opens, it will even be possible for coders to receive micro payments each and every time some processing uses part of their code. For sites like this a poster could receive a micro payment everytime someone likes their post.

Unlike every other bitcoin version, where due to processing capacity users compete with each other by paying fees to ensure that their transactions are processed, with BSV an unlimited scaling miners actually compete with each other to see who will process a transaction for the lowest cost.... it is essentially an infernal Red Queen's game.

Anyhow, this is the space I've been in since leaving shares and sharesguru. Hope you're well.

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/billybambrough...0/#4abbbb4191cb



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royco
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/billybambrough...gher-heres-why/



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nipper
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The second coming of crypto will be huge, it's simple maths
by Jared Dillian

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I like gold, but I like Bitcoin better - and I own both. The technology of blockchain is actually quite boring (a distributed, open ledger), and if you didn't take the time to learn about it, it would be easy to miss its significance. No government can ban Bitcoin or seize it. It is technologically impossible, without a piece of technology known as a quantum computer. It is the ideal way to move capital seamlessly and secretly around the globe at minimal cost.

I've found that people tend to be attracted to cryptocurrencies for different reasons. The true Bitcoin geeks are Utopians who envision a society unencumbered by centralised central banks with policy makers who tend to concentrate risk and mistakes. The finance guys, like myself, see a creeping authoritarianism in politics, which has the potential to translate into very illiberal economic policies. But there is more to it than that.

If you believe that Bitcoin has a future, then the math is simple. If you assume that only 0.5 per cent of the population has adopted Bitcoin, and that there are only 16 million to 17 million Bitcoins available, then as adoption inevitably increases the price of Bitcoin will rise significantly. But I also look at it in another way, which is that with every new technology, there is an initial bubble phase. Dot-com stocks in 1999, for example. The Internet held such promise, and investors were discounting that promise out into infinity and the bubble eventually burst.

But the promise of the Internet was real, and over 20 years that promise came to be realised, and a real bull market-not a bubble-developed. It seems like 99 per cent of the dot-com stocks disappeared, but a handful went to $1 trillion market caps. This pattern will be repeated with Bitcoin and blockchain. We've already had the initial bubble, replete with "CoinDaddy" and "Bitcoin Jesus."

Now we get down to the hard work of realising the potential of the technology, which could be as influential as the internet itself. I believe there will be another bull market, much larger than the first one where the potential is finally realised. Bitcoin is currently in a state of neglect. I don't think we'll have to wait 20 years for the second act




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"If I had even the slightest grasp upon my own faculties, I would not make essays, I would make decisions." ― Michel de Montaigne

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In Reply To: nipper's post @ Aug 18 2019, 08:04 PM

His first instalment fell a bit flat

https://www.ccn.com/satoshi-nakamoto-bitcoi...veal-epic-fail/

 
nipper
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Pretty high-powered article
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MYSTERY 'SATOSHI NAKAMOTO' CLAIMS HE'S HODLING $10 BILLION IN BITCOIN

- keep hodling, that's all I can say



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"If I had even the slightest grasp upon my own faculties, I would not make essays, I would make decisions." ― Michel de Montaigne
 
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https://www.ccn.com/mystery-bitcoin-invento...eveal-identity/
Satoshi nakamoto aka ???



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plastic
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Where will such a thing leave the petro dollar and the Federal Reserve?



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