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EHE, ESTIA HEALTH LTD
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post Posted: Dec 12 2016, 09:42 AM
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Estia is undertaking an underwritten $136.8 million equity raising to reduce core debt
• Estia has concluded that in the current operating environment its optimal maximum leverage position should be in
the range of 1.5x - 1.8x EBITDA and therefore is undertaking the following initiatives to facilitate a reduction in core
debt over the medium term:
• An underwritten $136.8 million non-renounceable entitlement offer of 1 New Share for every 3 existing shares at an
offer price of $2.10 (‘Entitlement Offer’)
• No interim dividend to be paid in March 2017 in respect of the first half of FY17
• Thereafter, the expectation is that Estia’s dividend policy will be to pay at least 70% of net profit after tax for the period
to which the dividend relates1
• Proceeds from the Entitlement Offer will be used to reduce core debt by ~$131.0 million and pay transaction costs of
~$5.8 million
• The equity raising announced today will allow Estia to:
• Reduce leverage in the business to within revised target levels
• Operate at all times within its revised lower leverage guidelines
• Continue to pursue Estia’s preferred business strategy, including greenfield and brownfield development pipeline and
significant refurbishment, over the period to the end of FY18 and beyond
• Operate with a management team focused on optimising core business
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2.1 eh?? and 1 for 3 -----big dilute for existing share holder if one decide not to get new share.
still scratch my head as to why the heck someone willing to 7---8 bucks not long ago?? devilsmiley.gif unsure.gif



 
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post Posted: Dec 7 2016, 09:28 AM
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In Reply To: nipper's post @ Dec 6 2016, 08:54 PM

i've been eye on this sector for a while by now nipper.
reason is the sudden jump up of life expediency around world, also the money printing by central banks around world that created housing booming that made most of oldies a lot richer
so they can afford the good age care facilities to have their nice last stage of life.

before this sector is too rich in PE for me--[EHE at 7--8 bucks}
now seems it swing to the other way.
i still see the good growth in this sector and this sector is near if not at bargain basement. imho. just have to figure it the "ok" management team. { too many crookers in this sector}
hope you can help me out a bit nipper!! tongue.gif




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In Reply To: early birds's post @ Dec 6 2016, 08:40 PM

not sure why you are fishing in this pond. To me, too many uncontrollable variables.... and with only really margin plus business models. I know the demographics are good, but sometimes 'govt money + property' attracts spivs. And it's hard work; got to be at it day after day. More the playthings of fund managers.

But, but, it is where we will end up, and the decision making process of residents/ families becomes "whatever it takes" (guilt, expediency, urgency) means the sector is solid. But does consolidation/ streamlining of process deliver upside?



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really appreciated nipper. tongue.gif

freak this market---AFR is out before market opens. and EHE dropped through 2.50 at one stage in the morning. start at noon it just keeps up and up with stiles fashion.
try to dig something out of it, but seems asked wrong source. weirdsmiley.gif

still eye on this sector, just can't find something that makes me comfortable with at moment-----like swim in the mucky water..... puke.gif



 
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Assistant Minister for Health and Aged Care Ken Wyatt ... told a conference that changes to the Aged Care Funding Instrument (ACFI) that were announced in the 2016 budget were to be replaced with new cost-saving measures. The decision was taken by the expenditure review committee and comes ahead of the planned changes coming into effect on January 1, 2017.
AFR
...instead of adjustments to the way some ACFI payments related to pain management and physiotherapy were calculated, making them more difficult to obtain, there would be a one-year freeze on indexation of ACFI and in the following year a 50 per cent freeze on the added payment for high care patients.

https://agedcare.health.gov.au/sites/g/file...anuary_2017.pdf

One fund manager analyst noted that the change allowed the government to successfully cut costs in a way that did not target high ACFI claiming operators. The move may anger some in the non-profit aged care sector, who pointed the finger at private operators for "gaming" the system.





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thanks nipper for the info.

i try really hard to dig , but can't find any prop info as to why the heck EHE finished 10% up??? unsure.gif

need your help or anyone who can feed here.



 


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In Reply To: early birds's post @ Dec 6 2016, 11:54 AM

saw something about debt ceiling being approached ... and the soothing Announcements not fooling anyone.

One of the issues is that capital management is imperiled by a change from full deposit to a staggered amount, for new clients (inmates, tenants, customers?) - the issue of Refundable Accommodation Deposits (100% upfront - nice little earner). As residents pass away, EHE and others must pay back the Residential Accommodation Deposit (on average $371,000); more incoming clients are choosing instead to keep the lump sum and make Daily Accommodation Payments of $65.

also the removal of a Liquidity Management Policy from the website - never a good sign



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"If I had even the slightest grasp upon my own faculties, I would not make essays, I would make decisions." ― Michel de Montaigne

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where will the sp find support nipper?? i took the loss on this one few days before{ guilty myself that i didn't take the profit when it hit $3.00 plus week before}
seems the sell off is caused by EHE board won't tell market that they have plain to raise fund by issue more shares.
somewhere 2.20ish nipper??



 
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the sell-off for EHE continues.



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Aged care operator Estia Health has defended its business model after facing shareholders for the first time since a series of damaging earnings downgrades.

New chief executive Norah Barlow – an industry veteran appointed following the exit of predecessor Paul Gregerson in September after Estia stock had fallen 50 per cent – reaffirmed the company's current guidance at the annual shareholder meeting on Wednesday. That guidance, given last month, forecast underlying earnings before interest tax, deprecation and amortisation to be between $86 million and $90 million.

Even so, both occupancy and earnings are trending down. The October forecast itself was well down from the $105 million forecast less than two months previously. Estia is also in the midst of strategic review, undertaken by Macquarie Capital, that will look closely at the potential impact of government funding cuts to Estia's business.

"I would like to stress that so far, the review has shown that the overall Estia Health business is sound," Ms Barlow told investors.

While the announcement this year that $1.2 billion would be trimmed from the aged care sector affected other listed operators, Japara Healthcare and Regis Healthcare, Estia has been hit the hardest.

Ms Barlow and chairman Pat Grier blamed some of that damage on the bad press the company has received as turmoil hit the sector, while acknowledging fault also lay with the company.

"There has to be an element of that. But I have to say, when we give guidance out, we should meet it. And if we don't meet that guidance, we're hit," Ms Barlow told reporters after the annual meeting.

Ms Barlow said it was too soon to say whether the operator would look at asset sales or a capital raising with the strategic review under way. "It takes a long time to properly evaluate a company. That's the point we're still at," she said..

Estia quickly became a target for hedge funds shorting the stock as it grappled with the funding cuts – another element the aged care operator's trouble this year, according to Mr Grier.

"We more likely over-promised – and the others didn't do the over-promising – and under-delivered," he said. "Not by much, but because we had missed our forecast a couple of times, that was the first thing. "The second thing, we were seen to have grown a bit too fast and the media honed in on us. That's part of life in the financial world but there's been an amazing coverage in the media of us."
AFR ... after yesterday's AGM



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"If I had even the slightest grasp upon my own faculties, I would not make essays, I would make decisions." ― Michel de Montaigne

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