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post Posted: Sep 16 2019, 12:19 PM
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As I have been a captive market sitting up in rehab after getting a new left knee, between being interrupted by the nurses constantly doing obs, I have been able to watch most of this last test.
We were outplayed. Oz players looked tired, but gave their all.
Mathew Wade played extremely well, both of his centuries justify his selection.
There has been much made of the DRS system.
One of the reasons that England got significantly more LBW decisions was because they bowled a fuller length.
Nbut we got the ashes, which was the main aim of the game.
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balance
post Posted: Sep 16 2019, 10:56 AM
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In Reply To: henrietta's post @ Sep 16 2019, 10:16 AM

It was Paine's call I'm sure. Even Langer said it surprised him. I like Paine's style, he's a cool customer, but his DRS judgement is appalling.

All skippers make a mess with the bat v bowl thing on occasions. Ponting's famous "we'll have a bowl" in England and Nasser Husseins "we'll have a bowl (in Brissy iirc) when we put on 2 for near 400 I think spring to mind.

I think they are using the Duke ball in shield this year so I hope it sorts out some of the better players of seam bowling.






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In Reply To: balance's post @ Sep 16 2019, 09:59 AM

Yep, B , it was an unholy mess. Don’t know if Payne made the decision himself, but he has to take the blame. In the end we were lucky to retain the Ashes.
So, if Pucovski, Renshaw and Burns can fire in the first few Shield matches, they should be able to crack the team. There’s certainly a few places up for grabs ......... of course they will have to bend to Langer’s will in order to have any chance.

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After electing to bowl, we got the deserved result. A 3 day break and poor Hazlewood and Cummins were out there again. And willfully ensuring we would bat last with our poor batting group was ill thought out.

Our 1st innings flopped and they were bowling...again. They looked tired. Smith comes back to Earth and we look ordinary. Thankfully Wade stepped up but it was futile from the start. I gave us next to zero chance of winning or saving that test. All too predictable.

Harris single handedly lost some very important moments, maybe the series win. He was not alone, but his input was critical. Crucial dropped catches ( ie Stokes in that innings) Denly in this test on zero who then scored 94, throws to the wrong end with England 9 down in Leeds and awful batting with about 9.5 average. If he keeps his place I'd be very disappointed. He may look better when the ball is not seaming and swinging but then again most players do! He's not good enough to open against quality bowlers.

Sticking with Warner for so long also a mistake. He has been a wonderful opener and deserved some slack, but he's a shot duck right now. One of, if not the worst record by an opener in the history of test matches.




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In Reply To: balance's post @ Sep 13 2019, 02:48 PM

balance - the point for me is that if you let first class cricketers hang around in the test team for long enough then sooner or later they will have a good day. Jason Gillespie has a test double century to his name, and good on him, but he was not a regular test player on the chance that he would produce such an innings. If the selectors keep giving Mitchell Marsh opportunity then sure he will have days like he had overnight. But why him, and not, say, Travis Head or Joe Burns or .... anyway, by all reports it was a good performance by Marsh last night.



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Bowling first you really want 3 or more in the first session. All those dropped chances. Then a no ball 'wicket'. Very poor.

We could be in a much worse position. So many of their blokes got good starts and none went on to a big score. Root got a cracker again. But after being dropped 3 times iirc he was lucky to be there.
Buttler showing some dash being a white ball specialist, so I imagine the pitch is not as lively as previous tests.

Some good swing available as Marsh has shown. I'm happy to see him succeed despite my bafflement about his selection.
Hopefully we pick up 2 quick wickets and get the best of the pitch on days 2 and 3.
Hoping for Warner to get a score and Smith another double biggrin.gif if we can get some guys to stay with him.




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henrietta
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In Reply To: triage's post @ Sep 12 2019, 11:14 PM

Well , thank goodness Marsh got some wickets, because nobody else seemed interested. Watched the first session, and it was absolute torture. Really hope the team can pick themselves up from this low and set a decent first innings score. Payne, Warner and Smith looked like the Three Stooges for a while.

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In Reply To: henrietta's post @ Sep 12 2019, 07:59 PM

I get the win the toss and bowl first bit ... this way the poms will bat for a day and a half, Mitch's magnificant bowling talents will be needed to plug an end from time to time while the proper bowlers have a rest, and then when we finally get to bat, Dave and Mitch might get to swing the bat at a few more straight ones than usual in this series. rolleyes.gif

Seriously why would you drop a youngish (25 year old) middle order batsman after winning a test whilst perservering with a 32 year old opener whose recent batting average is in the single digits.

The selections, the decision to bowl first and the sloppy fielding effort in session one suggests that they are either still hungover or have clocked off early.



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Well, we seem to be trying really hard to make it a level series. Drop Head and Stark, bring in Marsh and Siddle. Win the toss and bowl first. Have they lost their minds completely?
Unbelievable!

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balance
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In Reply To: henrietta's post @ Sep 12 2019, 08:51 AM

We need to rest some bowlers so we weaken the batting. Sounds like a plan to me.

We now only have 4 specialist batsmen. 2 of whom are hopelessly out of touch in Warner and Harris.

Then we have Marsh whose record is atrocious in England, Paine who is adequate and Wade who is also not going well since his 1st test ton. So, 4 bats , 3 all rounders of dubious talent and 4 bowlers. I would argue that Patto, Starc and Cummins are all better all rounders than Mitch Marsh in that their batting is not much worse and their bowling far superior. Even Siddle is a handy bat in the tail.

If it is a flatter pitch, we will need the extra bowler, but to be effective, Marsh needs movement. And if there is movement, his batting will likely fail.
Nothing against Marsh and hope the gamble succeeds, but he really does not deserve yet another chance.

The one positive is he is a right handed bat. Broad has murdered our left handers.

Warner must play well. If Smith and Marnus fail, we're are in deep poo.




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