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Index Trading, xjo, dow, dax, ftse
early birds
post Posted: Feb 16 2019, 10:19 AM
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https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/15/stocks-trum...s-in-focus.html

deal ??? nothing has been done yet. market jumped up for "hopes"

oh well, my shorts for index been crushed last night, all stopped out!! weirdsmiley.gif
such is life, have to admit my wrong analysis by take loss!

not sure where asx200 will go next monday.??? unsure.gif



 
early birds
post Posted: Feb 15 2019, 08:25 AM
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it is Friday, and most of the market been rallying all week till last night.

so we might see out right selling today for most of the major market.

take care for the traders today!!



 
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post Posted: Jan 25 2019, 08:57 AM
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asx200

for today--------5875 to hold up side target 5925 . if it falls then we should see sellers come out . it's Friday.



 
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post Posted: Jan 23 2019, 09:59 AM
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https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/22/us-cancels-...ource-says.html

The White House rejected a trade planning meeting with Chinese counterparts this week due to outstanding disagreements between the two sides over the enforcement of intellectual property rules.
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that was the main reason for the sell off last night. SPX ----first support at 2603, if can't hold there then next support will be 2582ish. if still can't hold there then bulls can forget about it for short term, medium term.

for asx200 lets have look at 5750---5800 support zone, then 5700 has to hold for the bulls
all imho though
hope you guys can give different ideas, so we can form something better here!!



 
early birds
post Posted: Jan 16 2019, 06:31 PM
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In Reply To: Mork's post @ Jan 16 2019, 05:10 PM

thanks mork try to answer me.

but my question is..... can they close this trade before December 18, 2020, when SP droped to 2100 this year?? if it's option then they can trade it any time when market opens
so before it hit 34% drop{ in that case they gonna lose over $5b }, it will go through 2100 first. if they be able to trade it any time then they can't lose if market goes down from here, or market keeps going up from here on then they will lose big time witch they didn't mention it at all?? that was the part that confused hell out of me?? unsure.gif
thought it might be a special warrent {set for special date, and strike price}. not sure what is it.
ps, i'm not really good with options and warrents. so thanks mork anyway. really appreciated your input! tongue.gif





 
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In Reply To: early birds's post @ Jan 16 2019, 03:51 PM

Hi eb,

Most professional option traders delta hedge there positions when they sell options. This means there would be some sort of offsetting position in the the futures market. In this case they would be short SP500 contracts at the same time.

The strategy usually means they would be 50% hedge in futures when the market is at the strike price of 2,100. This would be rebalanced over time so they sell more futures as a hedge if the market falls and cover their futures position as the market rises.

Most times these guys are really trading volatility - current volatility is lower based on the vix at present so some of the position could probably be successfully hedged by buying out of the money puts with a lower implied volatility.

Its hard to exactly know because there are different strategies, but it would be extremely unlikely that the position would not have some sort of hedge in place.


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post Posted: Jan 16 2019, 03:51 PM
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https://www.msn.com/en-au/money/markets/a-m...hlxR?li=AAgfOd8

The trader sold 19,000 put options on the benchmark that would obligate them to buy the index at 2,100 on December 18, 2020,Reuters reported on Monday, citing data from the options-analytics firm Trade Alert. The S&P 500 opened at 2,586.18 on Tuesday.

It could be a winning bet to the tune of about $US175 million, as long as the index doesn't drop more than 22% from Monday's closing level of 2,582 by that date.

But if the S&P 500 goes the wrong way, the trader may stand to lose up to half a billion dollars.

For example, if the index were to drop 34% by December 18, 2020, the losses could amount to about $US558 million, Reuters said, citing a Refinitiv analysis.
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unsure.gif unsure.gif
can this trade be closed before that final date?? if it's option then it should be able to do it. but if it's some kinda special warren ....emmm
can someone explain to me here??? unsure.gif




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early birds
post Posted: Jan 11 2019, 09:38 AM
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it is Friday

and market is fully fact in the US VS CHINA trade deals get done.
time to lightening up i guess....if one had over weight market.




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post Posted: Jan 4 2019, 10:16 AM
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In Reply To: early birds's post @ Dec 22 2018, 10:41 AM

asx200

short term it has to hold 5525 then a sizeable bounce is on the card

for longer term investors-----5400 is the last level for the uptrend line. if that point falls then bulls can forget about market for a year or two. weirdsmiley.gif



 
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In Reply To: early birds's post @ Dec 20 2018, 09:56 AM

take loss for me again seems to be the case at year end!!!!

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/21/us-stocks-s...down-fears.html

Dow dives 400 points to end its worst week in 10 years.............

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finally , a woooogeeee mama for the bulls!



 
 


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