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MINING PROMOTER'S HANDBOOK, The art of promoting mining projects
blacksheep
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Not mining company related, and also not related to any ASX companies, but a good read nevertheless

The Lawyer at the Center of SEC Pump-and-Dump Case
By Bill Alpert
Oct. 4, 2018 1:50 p.m. ET
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In a stock fraud suit filed last month by the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, regulators allege that billionaire drug entrepreneur Phillip Frost and his company Opko Health participated in pump-and-dump schemes organized by investor Barry Honig.

The complaint in Manhattan’s federal district court says that Honig and his associates bought stock in three small companies, controlled the firms’ managements, and planted promotional articles about them before unloading their shares. The schemers reaped more than $27 million, the SEC charges, before leaving public investors with virtually worthless stock.

https://www.barrons.com/articles/the-lawyer...case-1538675403



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blacksheep
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And all this YouTwitFace. data being generated "needs to be powered by something" smile.gif

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Australia's obsessions with social media and search engines, alongside a cloud computing drive from corporations, is powering the growth in energy intensive data centres, which now use as much energy as regional cities.

Deon Newman, vice-president of strategy for IBM Asia Pacific, explained that the world is creating more information every day than humanity did over the course of a century.

“The reality is we're generating enormous amounts of data every single day; in two days we’re generating the same amount of information from year zero to 2005,” Mr Newman said during the Schneider Electric Innovation summit in Singapore.

This data is held in massive data centres, which are swiftly becoming the fastest-growing consumers of power in the country, and are expected to boom as demand grows for processing power for cryptocurrencies such as Bitcoin, and because every single Facebook post, tweet, and Instagram picture needs to be powered by something.


https://www.theage.com.au/business/the-econ...922-p505df.html



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YouTwitFace - great name biggrin.gif
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Getting back to the social media implications, and all that, in this rapidly changing world, old assumptions fall away very quickly. Something like ShareScene is very old school, long surplanted by more modern iterations. (but I like it). I suppose vehicles like Twitter are in the ascendency. As is narcissism.

In an important and related bit of news, one that may well impact the market, due to this realignment of user interaction, ability to monetise and, importantly, positioning for the future, YouTube, Twitter and Facebook have agreed to merge. Final weightings are yet to be nutted out, but it is agreed to call the new entity, this colossus, YouTwitFace.

Much of this corporate activity has been driven by the creeping realisations of corporate evanescence (existentialism at its rawest) following Google's admission that, when offering to digitise the entire Library of Congress, for free, they were flummoxed by the Senior Librarian when she asked "Well, this is very kind, but what will we do in 100 years time, when you aren't around?"



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Welcome back Blacksheep... yes I missed you !

I think whether it is Sharescene, HC, Twitter, Stockhead or any other media publication...they all need to be taken with a grain of salt.

It is however helpful over time to follow certain posters and learn the way they think, ramp, downramp, and overtime you get to know the ones that have some integrity.

Even the company reports are often tainted by how or what they say...

Biggest bugbear are those with company connections that use these modalities to post and portray independence. I know they monitor IP addresses but we can all get around with little effort using a VPN like Nord.


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Yes and for several reasons - some of their own making, IMHO.

1. They banned a great number of posters who had contrarian points of view - asked hard questions that probably didn't sit well with executives of some listed companies who have too much time on their hands monitoring the site - the type that have perhaps something to hide and don't want certain issues raised. It's easy enough to get cheerleaders en masse to bombard those contrarian posts with TOU's. Eventually moderators get sick of dealing with the sheer number of complaints, the contrarian POV is seen as a "problem" and the poster is silenced.

2. They lost a number of posters who saw HC for what it really was.

3. They lost a number of day traders - some good, some not so good - simply rampers.

A great number of the above use twitter now.

A number of company execs, their paid promoters/social media influencers and cheer squads all use twitter - the latter (cheer squads) are free to say pretty much anything on twitter. Some paid promoters have been caught out saying a little too much - stuff that has not been made known to the market via official channels - others still using the "nudge nudge wink wink" technique are hopefully on ASX/ASIC current radar. The best thing a listed company can do is let their project/progress reports/announcements do their talking - the companies doing the all the spruiking via various methods are the ones you don't want to be holding long term - just IMHO.

HC in the past would record something like 4k + posts a day - they would proudly advertise this figure on their front page. The number of posts per day today are no longer advertised but one can see the numbers are not there anymore. Won't be long before twitter totally kills the chat site.



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HC also states it views Twitter as (it's natural) competitor



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"If I had even the slightest grasp upon my own faculties, I would not make essays, I would make decisions." ― Michel de Montaigne
 
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Excellent article by AFR on the "new breed of stock promoters" (and a few old ones ( i.e.Hotcopper) below are a couple of extracts - get a load of what they charge for their "services"

How the micro-cap sector is built on hot air
by Jemima Whyte Jonathan Shapiro
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Small companies are paying thousands of dollars a month to be spruiked to investors via paid content as a new breed of promoters cash in on traditional retail brokers exiting the space, a trend that has prompted increased regulatory action by the Australian Securities Exchange.

StocksDigital, a Melbourne-based firm, is offering a package that promises an "immediate effect on market", or what's known in the industry as a "sugar hit".

"As you have experienced, once these articles go live, clients see immediate effect on market," an email sent to a potential clients explained.

StocksDigital is one of about a dozen operators including Stockhead, Bulls N Bears and enduring online forum Hot Copper that are competing to promote micro and small cap stocks to retail investors. They are an increasingly important channel to help raise capital.


StocksDigital, which lists Big Un, Creso Pharma, Lithium Australia, Orinoco, MMJ Phyotech and Milestone Sports as clients on its website, charges $19,500 for a typical three-month "engagement", according to one quote, and the client would be expect to reach 11,000 "targeted and engaged investors".

Stockhead is another mentioned in the article

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Also in the mix is Stockhead, which has told potential clients it is targeting coverage of two positive articles for every 1.5 negative articles across the site, which the company denied.

"There is not – and has never been – a ratio or any policy regarding 'positive' to 'negative' stories on Stockhead. Editorial decision-making is based solely on newsworthiness," Stockhead said. The company does not accept scrip as payment.

The cost of working with the platform is variable; the offering starts at $4000 a month.

Stockhead is owned by AG Media Investments, which has some common shareholders with investor relations firm Media & Capital Partners. Like more mainstream publications, the pitch to clients is that the sponsored content is labelled "special report" and interspersed with news stories. The claim is 75 per cent of the website's content is independent. (The website says 100 per cent of the journalism is independent, presumably excluding sponsored content).


Another service which blurs the lines between promotion and news is Bulls N Bears, a joint venture involving Business News. It says its point of difference is that it "guarantees coverage in The West Australian", including a daily breaking news email bulletin loaded on to The West Australian's website, posted to the The West Australian's Twitter account and The West Australian Facebook account. The cost? $1575 a month. The same monthly fee also covers managing the company's Twitter account.

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​And, despite these newer upstarts, stock forum HotCopper is a stayer in the spruiker infrastructure. The influential platform listed on the ASX in 2016.

The company says in its marketing pitch that it is the largest financial news site with more page views than Google Finance, the ASX, news.com.au and The Australian Financial Review per Nielsen ratings. It says the $12,000 spend for its Corporate Spotlight package – effectively a banner advert on the company's forum home page – will increase its audience by 3.5 times.


https://www.afr.com/business/how-the-microc...20180904-h14xjc

And then, of course, you have some companies doing their own spruiking on twitter/instagram



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Saw this on AFR - explaining directors selling and other stats biggrin.gif

Fun with Dick and Jane - Stuttering Statistics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdf-jKsKA9k...eature=youtu.be



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This shows how to identify a PnD via charts - Anatomy of a Pump and Dump (And How To Profit From Them) - provides a couple of ASX listed stock as an example - one is TON Mark 1 (before it went into VA.
http://thenudeinvestor.com/anatomy-of-a-pu...ofit-from-them/
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