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G'day,

 

I think that all in all, the plan is a good one (except that I am probably in the 10% that miss out).

 

Of course, we should always be a little leery of any Governments ability to take ANY planned project to completion.

 

I suspect that this will ultimately bring TLS back into the tent. Going out on a wildly speculative limb here, it may in the end deliver the separation of TLS that the Govt. wants. That is, TLS could exchange their existing Wholesale infrastructure for a share of the NBN. The existing Telstra network can still provide much of the basis for this FTTH. It would also avoid a protracted court battle that could well go on for many years.

 

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This is bad for the Rudd Government, they set the parameters of the NBN tender process and then changed those parameters during the tender process therby excluding tenderers. The NBN will now cost more and will take longer (think of the Opera House) leaving telstra free to pursue its own business plan whilst frustrating the government in court.
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At least we'll be left with a necessary piece of infrastructure in the end, unlike the $900 handout which will likely only increase our current account deficit. It should keep a few people employed over the next few years. Might save a bit of greenhouse gases even , if conferencing and remote consults for medical specialist can be carried out over the net. My main worry is the government is spending hand over fist, with revenues likely to pull back drastically, leaving us with a big debt to service. Isnt excessive debt what caused this crisis in the first place?
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http://business.theage.com.au/business/bro...90407-9v9e.html see told you they couldn't do it without TLS. Buckle up TLS is going to run
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This is a very good result for Telstra. They are able to get back into the NBN and they get to keep their existing monopoly in the short to medium term.

 

The government couldn't go alone without Telstra and would find it hard to use their copper in a FTTC type solution, so while surprising, the FTTH makes sense when taking that into consideration. As for the NBN, no one has been proposing to roll out FTTH as the roi is just not there, this will require massive goverment subsidies to get going. I still question the need for this and wonder if it will ever happen. It sure will be interesting to see the detail. Just think, FTTH is putting fibre into everyones home, digging trenches, etc. Massive cost and will take forever. In the meantime, Telstra can continue to milk the adsl, cable and 3g networks.

 

The goverment use to have a telecom communications company called Telecom, they sold it off as it was too inefficient. seems like they are rolling back the clock and think they can do it better this time. I seriously doubt it.

 

IMO the best cost effective solution would have been to partner with Telstra and

1. roll out VDSL

2. upgrade cable network to complement vdsl offering

3. Roll out 3g and LTE medium term for where there is no copper or other infrastructure.

 

the FTTH solution is certainly the superior technical option but leaves the taxpayer with massive debt. I think as the process goes along the solution will continue to be compromised and cut back to something of a cost effective hybrid.

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TLS could run to $3.50-$4 soon, as basically it was being kicked around as it was excluded from this deal, so now they'll all have to rebuy it lol
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The government will build this = it'll never get built. They still havn't delivered all the promised laptops for all the kids. And how's for eg Brumby's $60billion transport plan coming along lol.

 

That's why TLS is just upgrading their wireless network, as this structure will most likely never be built.

 

One gap closed, hopefully it'll close the 3.70 gap soon

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interesting isnt it - a government bank to help property now a government telco - both again a visit to the past - as they say "never waste a crisis"

 

$43Bn - must be magic number

 

not just FTN but FTYH (fibre to your home)

 

if government has thought of it it cant be too advanced

 

I suspect that wireless will run rings around it (pun)

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The reality of the situation is contained in the panel report;

 

The Proposals have also demonstrated that rolling out a single fibre-to-the-node (FTTN) network is:

 

+ unlikely to provide an efficient upgrade path to fibre-to-the-premises (FTTP), because of the high costs of equipment associated with rolling out a FTTN network that would not be required for a FTTP network (i.e. FTTN is not a pre-requisite for the provision of FTTP); and

 

+ likely to require exclusive or near-exclusive access to TelstraÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¾Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢s existing copper sub-loop customer access network (CAN), the so called ÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’â€Â¹Ãƒƒâ€Â¦ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ãƒâ€¦Ã¢â‚¬Å“last mileÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¾Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢, thereby confirming that strong equivalence of access arrangements would be essential. As well, providing such access to a party other than Telstra runs a risk of liability to pay compensation to Telstra. The Proposals have this risk remaining with the Commonwealth but they have not addressed the potential cost to the Commonwealth of any such compensation. In any event, the Panel considers that no Proponent could accept the cost risk and continue to have a viable business case.

 

Hence the govt is calling for views on options for reforming the existing telecommunications regime

 

It would be to the govt's benefit to talk to Telstra

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