drrc Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/c...1-1226077150583 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enniscorthy Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 The Australian is headlining that the IE report is a big boast to the 2RRs. I knew what was in the IE report 6 weeks ago It does change me...........................................................Independent ????????????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puzzled Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 "The views put forward by some retail shareholders are flawed and misleading. Shareholders now have a validated analysis to make fully informed decisions," said a Qiagen official. I'm so glad that the IE report as the support of the purchaser. That's all I was waiting for really; now I know it must be accurate and as a result I will vote in favour of the Scheme. *Please be advised that this message comes with an irony warning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelpie Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Boast or boost?????????????????? Either way it amounts to journalistic balderdash and of little consequence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enniscorthy Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 My god that is my second messup...................... boost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mongerel Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Qiagen has missed the point that about 38%, at least, of the field are already fully informed, have been for some time, and are in fact way ahead of "The Validator". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onefineday Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 "is likely to provide a superior outcome to the risk and time adjusted returns that could be delivered from the longer-term alternatives." Wow. Are you really saying the current board can't run this business to grow the share price higher than $3.55 ? Really ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malta Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Re: Page 7 Scheme Booklet There is no guarantee of success in these endeavours given the possibility of emerging technologies and potentially generic competition at the end of the life of each of the various patents CST AGM 15th November 2010 Tony Radford ÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’â€Â¦ÃƒƒÂ¢Ãƒ¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…âہ“2014 Mark 4 new characteristics to protect IP going forward, but we really have a wonderful product hard to improve on best practice.ÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’â€Å¡Ãƒƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚ CST briefing Melbourne 23/3/2009 Jim Rothell Concerning Patents ÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’â€Â¦ÃƒƒÂ¢Ãƒ¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…âہ“Modifications on the way itÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¾Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢s done, the small volume is patentable.ÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’â€Å¡Ãƒƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚ ÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’â€Â¦ÃƒƒÂ¢Ãƒ¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…âہ“No more details, we want to lodge more patents not saying much now.ÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’â€Å¡Ãƒƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚ ÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’â€Â¦ÃƒƒÂ¢Ãƒ¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…âہ“Patent protection in tube 2022, when it runs out we will have incremental benefits.ÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’â€Å¡Ãƒƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚ ÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’â€Â¦ÃƒƒÂ¢Ãƒ¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…âہ“It will be difficult for a Generic test to just copy. Have to go through the same process as we have taken will take over 5 years. To get a new generic test is a hell of an expensive process, cannot get me to approval, not many companies are going to do this when there is an incumbent.ÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’â€Å¡Ãƒƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚ On takeovers: CST AGM 16th November 2009 Tony Radford Question: Arana takeover went to the USA, have you looked at such a possibility? Answer ÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’â€Â¦ÃƒƒÂ¢Ãƒ¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…âہ“Arana is an Australian tragedy I am disappointed it was sold. We want this company developed as an international company we will always act in the shareholders interest.ÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’â€Å¡Ãƒƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚ CanÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¾Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢t put my finger on the exact wording re takeovers but in answer to a question at an earlier AGM on whether a takeover would be a possibility Tony Radford said ÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’â€Â¦ÃƒƒÂ¢Ãƒ¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…âہ“You are deluding yourself if you think we are going to sell to an overseas company.ÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’â€Å¡Ãƒƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
argietea Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 "QIAGEN views Cellestis as an attractive asset, with a strong brand, good management of client relationships and a proven ability to grow its business." (section 5.7.1) and Qiagen expects double digit growth in 2011-12, then significant double digit growth for the 2012-2013 year ....(previous shareholder presentation) I am not sure where Deloittes gets their "steady earnings" from .. If they want to prise my holding away from me, then I don't want "fair and reasonable", I want obscenely generous . I don't need to sell, I don't want to sell, and the CGT implications will have an impact on the overall worth of the "deal". None of the risks outlined in the IE are absent from other stocks, so where would the funds go - there is only so much beer one can drink .. I feel like I am living in a house I bought in an area that was a bit run-down, but now there are some signs of the area going ahead - you know more coffee shops, fewer "Greasy Joes", less crime ..and now I get told I have to sell for a fair and reasonable price ("it's for your own good, who knows what will happen to the neighbourhood?", the estate agent says it is for a good price) , when with a bit of luck, the area will continue to go ahead, and I will be able to make my own decision when to sell .. or not. Ahh, I feel better now ... Vent is over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macduffy Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 I'm well behind the play here and have just seen the boardroom radio "presentation". Don't think I've ever seen such an unimpressive, unconvincing performance. On its own, it makes a strong case against approving the Scheme of Arrangement. Let's hope all CST shareholders get to see it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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