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In reply to: bam_bamm on Thursday 05/06/08 02:48pm

he's been a hell of a spinner.could have played many many more tests if not for that other bloke.looks like the surgery has failed or just cant be fixed.

well played scg macgill.

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QUOTE (balance @ Thursday 05/06/08 08:54pm)

hi balance, there is a slight difference between Warne & Macgill


Warne bowled "Hand grenades" Macgill was a "Pie chucker" in comparison.


I must say though his 200 plus test wickets at a very good average indicates,

statistically he is up with the best.


History will show this....so you are on a winner http://www.sharescene.com/html/emoticons/tongue.gif


Enjoy your well deserved retirement, Stewie Macgill..


Now, who will be the next "Top line spinner" for the Aussies???

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In reply to: theadder on Friday 06/06/08 10:26am



I completely disagree with you about Warne and Macgill.


Macgill's lethal balls were just as much hand grenades as Warne's lethal balls.


What made Warne the great that he was is that his balls that were not lethal were never the less accurate and difficult to get away.


Historically, any given ball from a legspinner was either lethal, whacked or both. Warne's genius was that this did not apply to him - he had the lethality of a legspinner with the accuracy and attention to detail of an offspinner.


Ian Whitchurch

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In reply to: ian_whitchurch on Friday 06/06/08 11:43am

hi ian, many have disagreed with me, so you are not alone there.


IMO, the only concession with Macgill when you compare him to Warne, his bosey

was superior...after this light years away from the Master.


If one was batting against Warnes "Hand grenades" you would certainly

be on your toes.


In a match facing Macgill one would not need to have a "Lunch break" if you liked

pies... http://www.sharescene.com/html/emoticons/tongue.gif


I love pies http://www.sharescene.com/html/emoticons/wub.gif


Funny world if we all had the same opinion....cheers


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In reply to: theadder on Friday 06/06/08 01:10pm



You don't get it.


For a typical legspinner, and by that I mean every one who was not Bill O'Reilly or Shane Warne, the batsmen going after the pies is *the* essential part of the wicket taking plan.


This is because some of those pies will turn the other way, some of them will be mishit after misjudging the spin and some of the pies will leave them stranded halfway down the wicket, because thats how legspinners buy their wickets.


You pick a leggie, you accept they will bowl crap and get hit. You just bet they will take enough wickets for it to be worth it.


Ian Whitchurch


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In reply to: ian_whitchurch on Friday 06/06/08 12:55pm

I get it alright, I was a spinner playing cricket over a long period of time.


Bowling at any level is about, control and guile. Not only for spinners.


Perfect examples are McGrath & Warne.


Long hops and half pitches at times do get wickets, with that I agree. But in saying this, I have in my time seen many more boundaries scored from these deliveries in comparison to wickets.


Do you get that!!!


Or I have been watching and playng a different game of cricket http://www.sharescene.com/html/emoticons/wacko.gif

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