Spicer69 Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 QUOTE (maiden @ Wednesday 27/02/08 03:07pm) There's enough suspension going on in peoples minds/chests ATM without a trading suspension.......and the suspense is killing me....lol..... http://www.sharescene.com/html/emoticons/weirdsmiley.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJ83 Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 I'm pretty sure the halt is just so the company can prepare the announcement for the ML. Obviously the RMOH would know the ML has been approved, so would its employees now and all of SLA company - so they have to halt so they can fully prepare an announcement. I will have a sleep in tomorrow till near ten so I won't have to hit refresh on the asx site for too long!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryW Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 I have just read all of ABS notices today, can they really do what they did yesterday and sell all those shares knowing they are in problems? I would be pissed right off if i had bought. ?Can the ASX reverse these insider trading deals? I know you can get away with murder today but this is over the top http://www.sharescene.com/html/emoticons/sadsmiley02.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kline Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 In reply to: GarryW on Wednesday 27/02/08 07:08pm I don't think this has any relevance to SLA, Garry.I didn't notice any large volumes changing hands lately at SLA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spicer69 Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Except for the childrens cold and flue trials it has SFA to do with ABC learning.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torchwood Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 In reply to: Spicer69 on Wednesday 27/02/08 06:37pm Ok I here the groans but I thought I would do one more post for the hell of it. The good old moderator doesnÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¾Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢t like the Russian script and I thought I wouldnÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¾Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢t push the boundaries and post in Hungarian (mm why did I pick that language). Many of you have PMÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¾Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢d me over the last 2 or 3 days. I tried to get back to most of you but I now call it quits, I donÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¾Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢t spend a lot of time on the computer and I have many other things to do. Best of luck to all who hold. Many of you obviously have significant money in SLA and are true believers. (I donÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¾Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢t hold for what it is worth but have been ÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’â€Â¦ÃƒƒÂ¢Ãƒ¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…âہ“around the edgesÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’â€Å¡Ãƒƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚ for sometime with SLA) A number of you have asked me is it bad news re the trading halt. Bottom line is I have no idea but I am very confident is has nothing to do with my concerns. For what it is worth I think it will be very positive announcement and consistent with what you are saying on this thread. It should be positive to the SP. So what are my concerns. Let me post an article and I will get back to you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torchwood Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 In reply to: Torchwood on Wednesday 27/02/08 07:26pm PHARMACEUTICAL RESEARCH AND MANUFACTURERS OF AMERICA (PhRMA) NATIONAL TRADE ESTIMATE REPORT ON FOREIGN TRADE BARRIERS (NTE) 2007 RUSSIA Trade in the Russian pharmaceutical sector continues to be impeded by the failure to protect commercially valuable test data, poor enforcement of intellectual property rights, and non-transparent regulatory procedures in registration and quality controls. New adverse regulations for pharmaceuticals were introduced or were under consideration by the Russian parliament and government bodies in 2006 despite WTO accession negotiations. Market Access Barriers Reimbursement Procedures Reimbursement decisions are not made based on objective and verifiable criteria. Mechanisms for purchases of reimbursed drugs and tenders are non transparent. Foreign firms are often discriminated against in tender processes. Lists for state purchases are drafted with virtually no transparency and little concern for quality and safety interests. Such criteria are neither contained in the legislation nor practiced by the authorities. In addition, no appeal procedures for reimbursement decisions are provided. The drug listing/delisting process for the new federal drug reimbursement program instituted in 2005 was highly opaque with little information available in written form. No criteria were announced. No recourse or independent appeal procedure was available.Marketing Approval Significant delays for marketing approval exist in part because the lengthy, non-transparent local process requires duplicate clinical trials. Arbitrary fees are discriminatory to foreign companies and are not charged directly by the state registration body but instead by a third-party not stipulated in the Law on Medicines. Unnecessary requirements for re-registration (every five years) and corresponding discriminatory fees for foreign companies are imposed. An Amendment to the Law on Medicines adopted in first reading by parliament in July 2005 imposed a requirement for the re-registration of medicines in case ÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’â€Â¦ÃƒƒÂ¢Ãƒ¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…âہ“other dataÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’â€Å¡Ãƒƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚ submitted during registration changes. This vague terminology opens room for corruption. Quality Assurance and Mandatory Certification Rules regarding state control of medicines are excessive, administered arbitrarily, and not harmonized with international practice. Control procedures are carried out in a non-transparent manner: not by the responsible state body but by various opaque third parties who obtain access to confidential data on preclinical and clinical trials and impose their fees and terms on applicant companies unilaterally. Companies have no recourse since if they donÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¾Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢t comply they do not obtain registration or other required certification. Control procedures entail provision at cost to manufacturer of samples, which are not returned to the company. The number of samples is set arbitrarily. Clinical Trials Tax Medicines imported for clinical trials face a VAT levy of 18% instead of 10% levied on medicines imported for sales. This higher tax rate impinges the ability of companies to perform obligatory clinical trials, represents a clear barrier to trade, and may result in a loss of opportunities for Russia to attract a greater number of clinical trials. The Russian Government failed for the fifth year to issue a List of Medicines required by the Tax Code that could solve this problem. Import Regulation In July 2005, the Russian government issued new rules regarding import of pharmaceuticals where instead of a widely expected lifting of the import license it set a new provision allowing a restriction on import of pharmaceuticals on an unspecified ground by a government decision or an international treaty. No justification, criteria, procedure or any further details are provided in that decree with regard to its application. In addition, the Ministry of Health (MOH) indicated it was contemplating changes to the Law on Medicines that would ban import of pharmaceuticals by foreign companies. Import License for Medicines The current procedure for obtaining a pharmaceutical import license is duplicative and involves unjustified costs. To obtain a license, according to the July 2005 decree issued by the Russian Government, an applicant has to go now through three agencies: i) Narcotic Committee; 2) Roszdravnadzor and 3) Ministry of Economy (MEDT). Then a license has to be registered with the Federal Customs Service. Associated fees include: i) a fee collected by a third party appointed by Roszdravnadzor which is not commensurate with service but rather is unfairly calculated as a percentage of the contract value, and ii) a fixed nominal fee collected by the MEDT. The MEDT has often stated their view of this license as unnecessary, however, a government decree issued in July 2005 has reinstated the requirement for that license instead of eliminating it. The Decree also failed to specify a fee or a full timetable for the license issuance. Intellectual Property Protection Data Exclusivity Russia currently does not provide data exclusivity. The current Russian Law on Medicines does not distinguish between originators and copiers and, in theory, requires both to provide ÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’â€Â¦ÃƒƒÂ¢Ãƒ¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…âہ“results of clinical and preclinical testsÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’â€Å¡Ãƒƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚ to gain marketing approval of their drugs. In practice, generic companies register their drugs and do so in the absence of any serious clinical or preclinical data through an arbitrary, discriminatory procedure. Contrary to TRIPS Article 39.3, this legal regime allows for unfair commercial use of test data. It fails to ensure that no generic applications, without the permission of the person who generated and originally submitted the data, may rely on such test data in support of an application for product approval. This has left the U.S. research-based pharmaceutical industry vulnerable to copying by domestic and foreign generic companies prior to the end of a term when proper data exclusivity would have expired. Current proposals for changing the Russian Medicines Law would permit Russian authorities to continue their current practice of accepting - on their face - the validity of documents provided by Russian generic manufacturers without looking into the validity of the documents for registration or their claims. Such a ÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’â€Â¦ÃƒƒÂ¢Ãƒ¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…âہ“positive approachÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’â€Å¡Ãƒƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚ rests on the premise that Russian MOH officials will act in good faith in implementing the proposed law. However, recent statements and discriminatory actions by Russian MOH officials that favor local companies over importing companies in determining access to the newly launched federal reimbursement program demonstrate that Russian officials are determined to favor local over imported pharmaceutical products To be compatible with TRIPS Article 39.3, Russian law needs to be amended to require non-reliance for a period of at least five years, to prohibit disclosure of confidential information, and to provide procedural safeguards that will permit the proper and timely enforcement of the law. Neither the Russian Law on Medicines, nor the Russian Law on Trade Secrets, nor the Russian Competition Law contains specific provisions regarding the non-disclosure of test data on new drugs. Enforcement Concerns The current legal system is not equipped to penalize violations of intellectual property rights and problems remain in the administration and adjudication of patent disputes and violations of registered patents. Current penalties for intellectual property rights violations are not adequate to compensate for the injury the rights holder has suffered from the infringement of their intellectual property rights. Trademarks Trademark infringement has been permitted and sanctioned through the registration of trademarks very similar to the original trademark. There have been some positive signs of enforcement in court cases on trademark infringement, but overall, enforcement remains a problem. Ban on Use of Pharmaceutical Trademarks in Prescribing New federal reimbursement rules arbitrarily issued by RussiaÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¾Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢s Roszdravnadzor in May 2005 require doctors to only prescribe medicines using non-proprietary names and not use trademarks. Furthermore, an amendment to the Law on Medicines was approved by the Russian parliament in July 2005 that intends to ban the use of pharmaceutical trademarks completely in all prescribing, as well as in government purchases. President Putin has indicated his opposition to this legislation. Counterfeiting There is weak enforcement against counterfeit medicine producers, three quarters of which are produced domestically representing 4 to 12% of the market. Russian law does not specifically criminalize pharmaceutical counterfeiting and injunction measures are not applied. A definition of a ÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’â€Â¦ÃƒƒÂ¢Ãƒ¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…âہ“pharmaceutical counterfeitÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’â€Å¡Ãƒƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚ was introduced in the Law on Medicines in August 2004, however, no related prosecution articles have been added in the criminal and civil legislation. There is no procedure for evidence gathering and acceptance by courts to facilitate court proceedings in counterfeit cases. Penalties for trademark infringement are completely inadequate to serve as deterrents and compensation to trademark owners is not commensurate with losses. The main article of Russian legislation currently applicable in cases of pharmaceutical counterfeits is the one that addresses trademark infringement. However, the Criminal Code can only be applied in cases of numerous violations or involving a large damage, and even so the liabilities are inadequately low ($5000 to $8000 maximum). The liability set in the Administrative Violations Code is even less ($1400 maximum). The Russian parliament has been debating a potential increase in criminal and administrative liabilities for several years but nothing has been done so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokeypokey Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 In reply to: PJ83 on Wednesday 27/02/08 06:07pm I plan to do exactly the same... I have been hitting refresh all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasabibarako Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 In reply to: wasabibarako on Thursday 17/01/08 09:32am I had to go looking quite a few pages back to find my own post to check on my ML prediction, which was for February 8th. So if - as I do expect/hope for - the ML announcement comes through tomorrow, I would just be 20 days (less than 3 weeks) off the mark - not too bad. wasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torchwood Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 In reply to: Torchwood on Wednesday 27/02/08 07:30pm Sorry for the yellow - hope you can read it. OK so why am I posting. Hands up who was at the EGM. mmm a few of you. You might recall questions being asked re independent directors. I was there and was disgusted with the response from Vagif. Especially the comment about Peter Stedwell being down the hall way in a separate office. Now after you read the article - and with Allco, MFS, ABC learning etc in your memory banks, do you think it would be a good idea for SLA to have some independent directors? If your answer is yes then ask yourself where has all the money come re purchases by Solamind. Given the rather corrupt situation in Russia do you think it rather surprising that Ropren is the only drug approved in the last 20 years. Makes you think doesn't it. Glad those independent directors are asking lots of questions. Sleep tight SLA holders - and don't forget to take some profits on the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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