jeeves Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 I would take 47c as my entry price was 41c. jeeves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercury Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 there you go. and they can still get out for a comparably small fee, which irritates me. They could easily be waiting for the price of iron ore to drop further and then renegotiate again. I was hoping for a hard deal. Merc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolverine Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Anyone keen to enter the stock now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeeves Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Obviously the market does not believe that the deal will go through finishing at 36c vs takeover price at revised price at 45c. jeeves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolverine Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 The market gets everything wrong most of the time otherwise we would all be buggered. I am more interested on whether anyone is having a crack and how you are justifying it. I have been reading it up today and the offer is conditional, finance is still unresolved and the break fee isn't overly onerous so anything is possible but it seems like a lot of work to walk away from empty handed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjwk Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Hi Wolver, Well Im in at 35.5 . How do you justify that you ask? I cant Wolver but as you said its a lot of hard work to walk away from but if the deal goes through a 25% profit will be made. Risky !!! yes it is so a stop is in place. Worth a punt IMO and If it crosses the finish line in first place it will cover the freight on our vacation in Italy . MJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett68 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 not just the dodgy Chinese to blame - how are Merrills for a deadset bunch of wa...err...bankers ******************************** Lower bid for Sundance but MerrillÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¾Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢s covered Edited by Sarah Thompson and Anthony Macdonald Share Links: email Sundance Resources and Hanlong Mining have agreed to get a scheme of arrangement moving again after the Sundance board started to worry about missing yet another deadline to satisfy key Chinese regulatory and funding approvals at the end of the month. Hanlong said it would fulfil its obligations under the scheme ÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’â€Â¦ÃƒƒÂ¢Ãƒ¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…âہ“to act in good faithÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’â€Å¡Ãƒƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚ to get the approvals from China Development Bank by the August?31 deadline. Hanlong has said ChinaÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¾Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢s National Development and Reform Commission was behind the revised offer. One interesting aspect of the deal is how HanlongÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¾Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢s advisers at Merrill Lynch dealt with its clientÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¾Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢s decision to lower its original offer. Merrill is understood to have renegotiated its fee structure to get a better slice of the profits if Hanlong bought Sundance for less than 50ÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒÂ¢Ãƒ¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡ÃƒÆ’â€Å¡Ãƒƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ a share, a price that had been agreed between the chairmen of the respective companies until July 31 and was about to be put to shareholders. But after that date, everything changed and Hanlong unexpectedly demanded 40ÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒÂ¢Ãƒ¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡ÃƒÆ’â€Å¡Ãƒƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ from its target, as Street Talk reported on August 7, raising questions over whether the company had breached its scheme obligations to negotiate with Sundance ÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’â€Â¦ÃƒƒÂ¢Ãƒ¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…âہ“in good faithÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’â€Å¡Ãƒƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚ÂÂ. Documents tabled in court during ASICÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¾Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢s investigation of Hanlong officials for insider trading last year include Merrill LynchÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¾Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢s original fee structure, which contained a flat fee for success. Given this, what has raised eyebrows is talk that the adviser pushed hard to get the bid cut to just 40ÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒÂ¢Ãƒ¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡ÃƒÆ’â€Å¡Ãƒƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢. It is believed this is because under the new fee structure, the adviser receives extra for every cent Hanlong shaved from the initial 50ÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒÂ¢Ãƒ¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡ÃƒÆ’â€Å¡Ãƒƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ a share offer. Merrill Lynch yesterday declined to comment on its fee arrangement with Hanlong Mining. Most Sundance shareholders said yesterday they would rather get the deal done at the current 45ÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒÂ¢Ãƒ¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡ÃƒÆ’â€Å¡Ãƒƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ offer than suffer another delay, although many continue to hope that someone else will offer even an extra cent to remove the uncertainty of dealing with an unreliable Chinese counterparty. Some remain hopeful that once the mining licences are signed off in the next month, another party will come in, possibly Glencore. The miner-cum-trader has been increasingly active in West Africa and the economics of SundanceÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¾Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢s project make sense. Investor presentations from the time?iron ore was still priced according to ÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’â€Â¦ÃƒƒÂ¢Ãƒ¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…âہ“benchmarkÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’â€Å¡Ãƒƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚ or annual prices show?that Mbalam was set to deliver a 20 per cent internal rate of return even when the iron ore price was never going to go higher than $US85 a tonne. Glencore has a small stake in private company Core Mining as well as the rights to its offtake. Core is a partner to Sundance in terms of its infrastructure, and putting the companiesÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¾Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ projects together makes sense. Core is also understood to be looking to sell a 10 per cent stake for as much as $300 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veeone Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Sundance hints at talks with rival bidders Peter Kerr, The West Australian September 20, 2012, 5:29 am Sundance Resources has given the clearest signal yet it is in talks with rival bidders to unpredictable takeover suitor Hanlong Mining.Chairman of the Perth-based but African-focused iron ore miner George Jones told WestBusiness that while the most likely outcome was for the revised Hanlong deal to proceed, the company was exploring other avenues. "Part of the rearrangement is that we are now free to shop the transaction and we are looking at all our options," he said. "We have got people in China and Africa and some in Paris working on other things, so it is a pile of work going on, and it is all progressing." When pressed whether his advisers in Paris were working on a deal for a new bidder, Mr Jones declined to comment but admitted Sundance was wary of another attempted renegotiation by China's Hanlong amid faltering iron ore prices. "You can't rule out anything in life but it (a renegotiation) won't be welcome and we are doing everything we can to make sure there is competitive tension," he said. "There is now the opportunity for other people to have a look at it. The benchmark has been lowered. It was 57ÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒÂ¢Ãƒ¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡ÃƒÆ’â€Å¡Ãƒƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ they had to beat - now they only have to beat 45ÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒÂ¢Ãƒ¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡ÃƒÆ’â€Å¡Ãƒƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢." Sundance last month agreed to the revised 45ÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒÂ¢Ãƒ¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡ÃƒÆ’â€Å¡Ãƒƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢-a-share takeover from Hanlong provided an exclusivity provision was removed from the deal. The bid valued the company at $1.37 billion - down from Hanlong's original 57ÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒÂ¢Ãƒ¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡ÃƒÆ’â€Å¡Ãƒƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢-a-share bid last October which priced Sundance at $1.65 billion. A shareholder meeting on the takeover is due at the end of November, assuming that Sundance wins mining licences in the Congo by the end of this month. As part of the deal it also has to gain mining concessions in Cameroon next month and Hanlong must win funding approval from the Chinese authorities. Mr Jones said he was confident it would secure all approvals for the Mbalam project which straddles the Cameroon and Congo borders. "Don't lose sight of the fact that it is a world-class deposit, it is in the bottom of the bottom quartile of the world for costs," he said. "It will be about $US20 a tonne operating costs. At any (iron ore) price it is bulletproof." http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/business/...-rival-bidders/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolverine Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Had a nibble today. Straight punt it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolverine Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Hanlong has Sundance finance in the bag 26 September 2012 | Sarah Thompson and Anthony Macdonald PRINT: 26 September 2012 | PAGE 18 | Hanlong has Sundance finance in bag China Development Bank has finally signed off on financing for Hanlong MiningÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¾Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢s $1.37 billion takeover of Sundance Resources, but sources say the letter needs to be redrafted to satisfy SundanceÃÆâ€â„¢ÃƒÆ’ƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢â€š¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…¾Ãƒâہ¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢s scheme lawyers. AFR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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